.. _chats-channels: ================= Chats vs Channels ================= Telegram's raw API can get very confusing sometimes, in particular when it comes to talking about "chats", "channels", "groups", "megagroups", and all those concepts. This section will try to explain what each of these concepts are. Chats ===== A ``Chat`` can be used to talk about either the common "subclass" that both chats and channels share, or the concrete :tl:`Chat` type. Technically, both :tl:`Chat` and :tl:`Channel` are a form of the `Chat type`_. **Most of the time**, the term :tl:`Chat` is used to talk about *small group chats*. When you create a group through an official application, this is the type that you get. Official applications refer to these as "Group". Both the bot API and Telethon will add a minus sign (negate) the real chat ID so that you can tell at a glance, with just a number, the entity type. For example, if you create a chat with :tl:`CreateChatRequest`, the real chat ID might be something like `123`. If you try printing it from a `message.chat_id` you will see `-123`. This ID helps Telethon know you're talking about a :tl:`Chat`. Channels ======== Official applications create a *broadcast* channel when you create a new channel (used to broadcast messages, only administrators can post messages). Official applications implicitly *migrate* an *existing* :tl:`Chat` to a *megagroup* :tl:`Channel` when you perform certain actions (exceed user limit, add a public username, set certain permissions, etc.). A ``Channel`` can be created directly with :tl:`CreateChannelRequest`, as either a ``megagroup`` or ``broadcast``. Official applications use the term "channel" **only** for broadcast channels. The API refers to the different types of :tl:`Channel` with certain attributes: * A **broadcast channel** is a :tl:`Channel` with the ``channel.broadcast`` attribute set to `True`. * A **megagroup channel** is a :tl:`Channel` with the ``channel.megagroup`` attribute set to `True`. Official applications refer to this as "supergroup". * A **gigagroup channel** is a :tl:`Channel` with the ``channel.gigagroup`` attribute set to `True`. Official applications refer to this as "broadcast groups", and is used when a megagroup becomes very large and administrators want to transform it into something where only they can post messages. Both the bot API and Telethon will "concatenate" ``-100`` to the real chat ID so that you can tell at a glance, with just a number, the entity type. For example, if you create a new broadcast channel, the real channel ID might be something like `456`. If you try printing it from a `message.chat_id` you will see `-1000000000456`. This ID helps Telethon know you're talking about a :tl:`Channel`. Converting IDs ============== You can convert between the "marked" identifiers (prefixed with a minus sign) and the real ones with ``utils.resolve_id``. It will return a tuple with the real ID, and the peer type (the class): .. code-block:: python from telethon import utils real_id, peer_type = utils.resolve_id(-1000000000456) print(real_id) # 456 print(peer_type) # peer = peer_type(real_id) print(peer) # PeerChannel(channel_id=456) The reverse operation can be done with ``utils.get_peer_id``: .. code-block:: python print(utils.get_peer_id(types.PeerChannel(456))) # -1000000000456 Note that this function can also work with other types, like :tl:`Chat` or :tl:`Channel` instances. If you need to convert other types like usernames which might need to perform API calls to find out the identifier, you can use ``client.get_peer_id``: .. code-block:: python print(await client.get_peer_id('me')) # your id If there is no "mark" (no minus sign), Telethon will assume your identifier refers to a :tl:`User`. If this is **not** the case, you can manually fix it: .. code-block:: python from telethon import types await client.send_message(types.PeerChannel(456), 'hello') # ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ explicit peer type A note on raw API ================= Certain methods only work on a :tl:`Chat`, and some others only work on a :tl:`Channel` (and these may only work in broadcast, or megagroup). Your code likely knows what it's working with, so it shouldn't be too much of an issue. If you need to find the :tl:`Channel` from a :tl:`Chat` that migrated to it, access the `migrated_to` property: .. code-block:: python # chat is a Chat channel = await client.get_entity(chat.migrated_to) # channel is now a Channel Channels do not have a "migrated_from", but a :tl:`ChannelFull` does. You can use :tl:`GetFullChannelRequest` to obtain this: .. code-block:: python from telethon import functions full = await client(functions.channels.GetFullChannelRequest(your_channel)) full_channel = full.full_chat # full_channel is a ChannelFull print(full_channel.migrated_from_chat_id) This way, you can also access the linked discussion megagroup of a broadcast channel: .. code-block:: python print(full_channel.linked_chat_id) # prints ID of linked discussion group or None You do not need to use ``client.get_entity`` to access the ``migrated_from_chat_id`` :tl:`Chat` or the ``linked_chat_id`` :tl:`Channel`. They are in the ``full.chats`` attribute: .. code-block:: python if full_channel.migrated_from_chat_id: migrated_from_chat = next(c for c in full.chats if c.id == full_channel.migrated_from_chat_id) print(migrated_from_chat.title) if full_channel.linked_chat_id: linked_group = next(c for c in full.chats if c.id == full_channel.linked_chat_id) print(linked_group.username) .. _Chat type: https://tl.telethon.dev/types/chat.html